So....y'all like??
Many thanks to Elsewhere for sifting through all of this muck and organizing it and making it palatable and thanks to Darth Frosty for scanning this at his job on a Saturday morning.............
More to come, I'm sure........
Black Man
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Confidential Body of Elder Letters from 1981 through 2006
by Elsewhere inhere it is guys.
this is what darth frosty was talking about in his post the other day (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/149460/1.ashx).
this is a collection of confidential letters from the watchtower society that were sent to the bodies of elders in the years 1981 through 2006. these are the letters that you were never meant to see or read.. there's all sorts of information in them ranging from the boring and mundian to instructions about how to handle child molesters.. many thanks to darth frosty and others (who i'm not sure can be named) who worked very hard and took risks to collect and scan the information.
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Preaching work - What other religion preaches??
by Black Man ini know the mormons go door to door and i have seen some church of god people occasionally.
who else has organized preaching ministries (door to door, etc.)?
i'm in an ongoing dialogue with relatives and this is one of their contentions - that the witnesses must have the truth (despite the many fallacies) because they are the only one that go door to door preaching.
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I know the Mormons go door to door and I have seen some Church of God people occasionally. Who else has organized preaching ministries (door to door, etc.)? I'm in an ongoing dialogue with relatives and this is one of their contentions - that the witnesses must have the truth (despite the many fallacies) because they are the only one that go door to door preaching. So who else does it?
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Films/movies that resonate with Apostates
by Black Man inthere are a few films that i really connect with that sum up my j-dub experiences........ .
shawshank redemption: if you've ever "served time" at bethel, you can't help but connect with this film.
institutionalization, mental persecution and "andy dufrene crossing through 500 yards of shit, came out clean on the other side.
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great film recommendations by all of you. keep 'em coming..........
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144 000 blasted by the MATH (WT lying again)
by hamsterbait ini just took nathan natas chart for numbers of memorial partakers since 1935.. i worked out that on average 823 new partakers have been added every year since 1936, whilst on average 716 have been dying each year.. what is especially interesting, is that when the total of new partaker numbers almost exactly matches that given in w96 15/8 p31 for 1935, is in the year 1995 - they year they began to deliberately create the fog around the "generation" teaching.
(i used actual figures, not averages here).
i am now convinced that they have been paving the way for the feb 15 noolite since then.. i disregarded the figure for 1935 itself, since the witchtower gives two figures for partakers -.
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upping this...........
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Is an Organization required?
by Robert7 inso i had a shepherding call recently, and i laid out my concerns to the elders.
i said how can put full faith and trust into jehovah's organization, one which is directed by holy spirit, even though its past is littered with issues and errors (new light)?
i mentioned the redefining of generation, 1975 issue, and the un involvement.
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I'm upping this, because I'm embroiled in this same exact convo with family members.........
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Current & Former Elders- Will You Help Witnesses - Get Out of the Cult ?
by flipper ini know ,at first glance it seems like an impossibility .
i really haven't lost my mind here folks.
hear me out on this one.
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As a current elder (about to be former), the most that I say you can do is to live meaningfully and successfully once you exit. That will be the greatest signifier to them that "hey, you don't crumble and die once you're on the outside," and that there is a life to be lived and you have the power to make it productive.
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Maximus - Whatever became of?
by Black Man infrom time to time, i wonder about maximus, an ex-do who used to post during my early days of lurking here.
i heard he was sick (deathly sick, even) and wonder how he is doing?
i hope he is doing well.
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Great to hear that he's still breathing and living life. His posts really aided me in trying to have a moment of clarity with this cult situation and what to do about it.........
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Black Man's 500th post
by Black Man inok, this is my 500th post, which for me is a major accomplishment!!
i've lurked here since the beginning, posting here and there since 2001, and am very close to coming full circle on a fade that began to be engineered back around 1998. i just want to thank all of you for your comments, insights, and overall support.
each of you in your own way have aided me and given me something to make it to the next day.
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Thanks so much Cyrus..........
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BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?
by Black Man ini often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.
while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).
a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.
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Hey owen, Yeah, I knew Phil Gomes. Nice guy along with Ralph Walls, Anselm Packnett, Ron Curzan and a lot of the 360 Furman guys.........
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Devastating post coming next year
by darth frosty inwith in the next week and a half(maybe sooner) there is going to be a very insightful post about the borg.
merry christmas every one, and a happy new year.
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coming very soon.........hold tight!